kerry washington will be the ninth, that will be tomorrow. nischelle turner and john berman here to talk about this and much more. what is going on with this? >> first of all we should say there's only one nine hosts in 39 years, going into the 39th season this year, one of the problems. there's been a lot of talk about this lately, what's going on with "saturday night live," why have there been no black women on the show. black cast members saying when they were looking for black female cast members we couldn't find anyone who was "ready" but now the talk is you know what? we don't get it, and this is a problem, and with pop culture today the people leading pop culture, the beyonces, rihannas, the first lady is african-american, why are there no african-american female on the cast, there are six new cast members, five of them are male, all of them are white. >> i can hear already somebody say why does it have to be about color? why is this a conversation? because of the point you just made if you're going to have a show about pop culture, yo